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My Mythmoot proposal is due in about one month (eeeeeeeeeek), and I have an idea, but I need to make sure that what I'm planning to write and reality actually bear some resemblance to each other. So I have a simple question for all my Tolkien fanfic writers out there:

Why do you write Tolkien fanfic?

Thanks in advance to anyone with a moment to answer. (As always, private responses are welcome as a PM or email to

And yes, this means that this year's presentation will not be about cosmogony ... ;)
I have had a busy, busy day so far today, rearranging my closet and moving my stuff from the drawers in the bedroom into the new furniture in the guest room. I have also banished my sentimentality (almost*) and donated a bunch of old clothes and shoes to Goodwill. Some of these I have had since high school. Most of it I haven't worn in years, but because I tend to buy only things that I really really love, then I get attached to things.

I kept one shirt and one dress that I can't bear to part with.

As a result I wasn't on the computer much today, but when I did pop in, someone over at had followed and favorited and poured the whole bucket of accolades on me and AMC ... except to comment on the story. :^| To be fair, maybe she or he hasn't read the whole thing yet and wants to wait till the end. Read more... )
One can tell that I am getting antsy as the school year (both grad school and work!school) comes to a close because I am doing fannish stuff when I really should be doing other things. *sigh* Anyway, here's what I've been up to the past few days.

Does Kindle Worlds Mean the End of Fandom? And Monster-Shouting. Because I had typed this post in truncated form so many places, it seemed as though it should go on my permanent record somewhere. And the monster-shouting thing was one of those get-it-off-your-chest kind of things, being as it's one of my pet peeves in life, not just fandom.

I would like to say that I then stopped thinking about Kindle Worlds, but then Rhapsody posted a link with some interesting insight from one of the authors who wrote for the launch, about the contracts and vetting process.

New Information on the Kindle Worlds Contract and Vetting Process

That one gets the prize for my most creative title ever.

Now I am done talking about Kindle Worlds. Promise. I have posted on my Tumblr asking for any ideas of what people would like to see me write about on the Heretic Loremaster next, preferably something Tolkien-related, as all this real-world stuff is kind of getting me down. I'm open to ideas here too, of course!

Finally, I have posted my in-progress and messy but hopefully somewhat useful "consolidated timelines" for the Years of the Trees and First Age in The Silmarillion. I started this project years ago and got the worst of it done before my life became what it is and has been for several years now, and time for working on stuff like this went out the window. Once upon a time, I was super-sensitive about the unfinished nature of these and used to share them sparingly (I even have a copy I shared on a group once that has a threatening-sounding warning about not sharing them beyond the group!), but I'm kind of over that. They'll do more good unfinished and unpolished than they would unposted. So here are the consolidated timelines on Google Docs.
As my semester draws to a close, I am trying to rev up the Heretic Loremaster again, so I've posted my initial thoughts on Kindle Worlds here. (For those of you who haven't heard, Kindle Worlds is "the first commercial publishing platform that will enable any writer to create fan fiction based on a range of original stories and characters and earn royalties for doing so." Here are the guidelines.)

Here are some other links:

Letters from Titan: Kindle Worlds: Not bigger on the inside

[personal profile] heartofoshun: Amazon now wants to pay writers for fanfiction

Scalzi: Amazon's Kindle Worlds: Instant Thoughts

Heidi8: It's Kindle Worlds, we're just living in it?

Please do comment with other links to your own blog/journal or elsewhere! :) And, as always, I welcome discussion everywhere: on the HL, here, or wherever. It is easier for me to reply on the HL or Dreamwidth since I can access those at work. LJ replies have to wait till I get home, as I can only access LJ in the teacher resource room, and I like to make doing that a rarity.

Fannish 411!

Apr. 28th, 2013 09:23 pm
dawn_felagund: (feanorians)
Okay, so first of all, I caved. I'm now on Tumblr. I'm still figuring out how it works! I haven't posted anything yet. I'm planning to use it for fannish and writerly stuff only; this place will still be where I babble about a combination of RL, writerly, and fannish stuff. I'd certainly appreciate anyone who wants to follow me or who has any good ideas of who I should be following. Like I said, I'm clueless at this point.

I've updated my profile! It's needed it for a long time now.

And, finally, apparently Skype "unfriended" at least two people who I had added. I barely use Skype for fannish stuff, but if I friended you there and you're no longer friended, please let me know so that I can add you back. I have no idea how this happened. I don't unfriend people except in very extenuating circumstances (that's in my profile now!) and felt horrible that I apparently left at least two people wondering what they had done wrong.
I am a day late on my toast because, as circumstance would have it, I was busy at work yesterday and then busy in my free time finishing up the SWG newsletter. While evidence of my membership in the "deplorable cult" would likely not please Tolkien were he alive to know my reasons for being late, I wish him a happy belated birthday nonetheless, complete with a toast with my travel tea mug!

Picture and More beneath the Cut )
I've stumbled upon some interesting articles in my reading of late that seem particularly relevant to the literary-fannish community. If That Be Yer Cup o' Tea--Read On! )
A few years ago, Oshun, Pandë, Hrymfaxe, and myself and Bobby met up in NYC to spend the day at the Met. It was really a good time. I know there's been one other small gathering in NYC since then.

I was wondering if anyone would be interested in doing something like that again, maybe in the spring of 2013? I'm thinking New York again, since I know it's within a day-trip distance for a number of Tolkien fans (including myself).

This isn't a commitment or anything like that; just a preliminary reaching out to see if it's worth my energy to think about beyond just "Hey that'd be cool ..."
(It took me a few days to write this, off and on, but I do want to preserve my feelings on this whole incident.)

Cut for Those Understandably Tired of or Trying to Avoid This )
We walked through our front door at about 10 PM on Monday night and, by 7 AM the next morning, were back out it again on our way to work. The week has been pretty good, nonetheless, aside from being tired and chronically unproductive as a result. (I'm pretty much pouring all of my energy into teaching, so by the time I'm home, I have very little left for the other things on my plate; besides that my brain is still on British time, so I'm ready to head for bed by 7 PM.) Like now. My last student just walked out the door, and I feel thoroughly wrung out. Luckily, the little dears get report cards tomorrow, which means a half-day for them, which means I only have two classes to teach and am done for the day. (Well, I'll have to hand out report cards to the homeroom kids at the end of the day, but I think I have the most awesome homeroom in the school, so that's no worry at all.)

Anyway, two nights ago, Bobby and I went out to dinner and then came home and I logged onto my email and found an email from Rhapsody, telling me about one of the best surprises anyone has done for me. She and Lyra set up a community--Felak's Treasure--to thank me for the various fannish stuff I do. *wubbles* To say that I was blindsided by this is an understatement; I never expected to be thanked for this, much less in such a spectacular manner. It is a reward unto itself in so many ways. (Yes, I know that my creative time has suffered but that is as much due to RL these past few years, which--now that I'm going into my second year of teaching and won't be creating lessons for four grades from scratch every day--should be settling down, I hope.) It is still surreal to consider how an insomnia-induced whim has changed into ... well, the SWG today. A fairly large (given its rather specific nature) and well-respected archive. To say nothing of B2MeM; it is a serious understatement to say that it exceeded my wildest expectations this year. But it's all very fun for me; it scratches the part of my brain that loves organizing and ordering things, and it's lovely, of course, to see the stories and friendships that come about as a result of it.

Anyway, it was such a nice surprise upon returning home, although I haven't had the time to properly enjoy it. Well, I suppose I'll savor it and do a few entries at a time, although it's tempting, of course, to take in everything at once.
For the past couple of months, I've been talking with a fellow, Erurainon, about a new project he and another fan are working on that I think is really cool and want to help them to get off the ground. In the happenstance way that things tend to happen to me in this fandom (since I rarely have the time to be proactive in my own involvement these days), I had helped a writer named Abby set up an account on Many Paths to Tread, and she asked if I would help her friend Erurainon, who was also interested in an account. In talking with the two of them, they mentioned that they are working on a Tolkien-based podcast with a primary focus on the Silmarillion fandom.

Naturally, my ears pricked up. For one, I have invested a rather considerable *ahem* amount of blood, sweat, and tears into the Silmarillion fandom. For another, podcasting is something that I have been excited about for some time now but lacked the time needed to learn what it would take to actually make a podcast and get one off of the group for the fandom. Other fandoms have been using podcasts and other forms of audio for some time now but, in the typically conservative way of the Tolkien fandom where new technology is concerned, with the exception of the Tolkien Podfic community on LJ, I've not seen podcasts/podfics really being used in this fandom.

I first offered up the SWG as a means to connect with other Silmarillion fans--Erurainon has been involved in the Tolkien community for a while but is rather new to the Silmarillion writing community--which is, of course, open to any Tolkien-based group with a few restrictions, but as we talked, he asked if I'd like to be involved with helping to create the podcasts. After getting an idea of what the goal of the project was, I jumped at the chance. (Although the SWG will help to promote other groups/projects with very few restrictions, I am much pickier, not wanting to support anything that denigrates writers/types of writing or seeks to promote a "correct" way of interpreting the texts.)

They have planned a two-fold approach to the podcast. One podcast format will be a sort of roundtable discussion about a featured Silmarillion-based story: first a reading of the story, then a discussion of it by participants in the group. The second format will progress through The Silmarillion chapter by chapter, with a group discussion of each. The project is very much in its early stages; I don't even have a central group or community to refer you to yet, being as Erurainon and I have been trying to piece together his and Abby's knowledge of podcasting with my knowledge of running fandom projects in the midst of overwhelmingly busy schedules for all of us. But I did want to put the project out there and see who might be interested in contributing to the podcasts.

Technology-wise, it's very easy to do. The discussions are held on Skype, which is a free Internet telephone service. You'd need access to a computer with a microphone and speakers; I bought a microphone for about $10 for podcasting/podfic purposes. Erurainon and I "Skyped" about the project, and it was easy to do and fun. If you want to do any audio editing (like if you want to record a podfic), you'd need audio editing software. I downloaded the free software Audacity, which it took me about an hour one evening to learn to use. (Tolkien Podfic links to these Audacity tutorials that I used.) Simply participating in a discussion as part of the podcast, however, would not require learning audio editing.

Anyone interesting in participating? This is in no way a commitment to anything; just an initial, "Yes, please let me know when you know more!" type of thing. :) Any questions, too, please do ask, and if I don't know the answer right now (being as we're still in the formative stages and haven't figured everything out yet), I'll do my best to find out. And if you know any other Silmfolk who might not see this message but might be interested, please do feel free to help me get the word out.

On Reviewing

Nov. 13th, 2011 01:34 pm
dawn_felagund: Skeleton embracing young girl (Default)
Reviewing (meaning leaving comments on stories) is one of the more anxiety-provoking and frustrating aspects of fandom participation, in my experience. I frequently see newbies lament that their stories aren't receiving comments; authors sometimes stop posting to or leave entirely from sites where they feel that their work isn't receiving adequate comments. I know few authors who haven't marveled (or lamented) over the discrepancy between their read count and review count and wonder what made those precious few readers decide to comment.

As an author, of course, I am interested in reviews because I like getting feedback on my work. As a site owner/moderator, I am also interested in reviews because I want the sites I'm involved in to feel like active, welcoming communities to those who choose to share their work there, and I know that a site where stories are answered with only silence will not thrive.

I have umpteen theories about what motivates reviewing and even more opinions on the issue. I'm going to resist stating them now because 1) I am more interested in seeing how others' experiences/opinions align or don't align with mine and 2) I don't have the time right now to give adequate attention to the discussion I know will ensue. I'd very much appreciate fannish types--whether you're an author, reader, or both--answering the poll below about reviewing. FYI, I have set the poll so that individual responses are not visible to all and sundry. (Dreamwidth won't let me set it so that even I can't see individual replies, else I'd do that; instead, I can only ask participants to trust that I'm not interested and won't be viewing individual responses.) Please do feel free to elaborate in the comments as much as you'd like! For the record, I'll likely be using this poll data and comments (with permission, if I mention individuals, of course) for a Heretic Loremaster post sometime in the near future.

This will crosspost to LiveJournal, as it always does. I'd appreciate if you'd reply to the poll in one place only! :)

Poll! )

An Experiment

Oct. 15th, 2011 04:16 pm
dawn_felagund: Skeleton embracing young girl (Default)
Over on [personal profile] heartofoshun's journal, Oshun, [personal profile] pandemonium_213, and I have been talking about the experience that is posting to I haven't posted there in years. Once upon a time, the ability to reach a very broad audience (who might not be inclined to read on a Silm-only archive like the SWG or even a Tolkien-only archive like MPTT or HASA) appealed to me. I quickly discovered, though, that I found the company of those of us nerdy enough to want Silm- and Tolkien-only archives more enjoyable than the company of those who have written 13 stories in 13 different fandoms without ever having an interest in exploring a community that focuses on just one of those fandoms. That's probably snobbish of me, but that's been my experience.

Although I haven't posted on in years, I have left up the stories that I had already posted, so I occasionally still get reviews on them. The reviews I get have the unfortunate effect of reminding me why I don't still post on Most of them are sweet and encouraging, but then there are those that are so boneheaded as to make me want to drive my head through the monitor, which is not how I like to spend my admittedly limited "fun time" these days. Read more... )
So I go away for a week--less than a week!--and our normally tranquil corner of the fandom Interwebz explodes with the news that the large and well-known Tolkien fanfic site LotR Fanfiction (lack of link intentional) has not only been sold but sold to an owner who hopes to turn a profit on the site by hopping onto the social media bandwagon. People are understandably distraught and pissed off. The site apparently went offline without notice; on one of the mailing lists to which I belong, a site mod reported that even the moderators were unaware of the change in ownership or that the site was being taken down temporarily while it changed hands. [personal profile] esteliel has written an excellent post that sleuths out some of the darker intentions behind this Keith Mander fellow's interest in LotRFF.

Opinions? Of course I have opinions! )
In the past few days, my post on the incident with Lady Roisin has generated close to 200 comments. In the course of this, I have had the chance to hear from and talk to many people that I never spoke to about Roisin before this point, although in some cases, I knew of their involvement. I am ashamed to say that, in a few of those cases, I had formed judgment of their involvement, despite never asking to hear their side of the story.

I do not regret having supported Roisin. I believed her to be sick, even when I knew there was something wrong with her story. I couldn't prove anything, though; as soon as I could, as the above post attests, I came forward. Until then, I did what I thought I had to do, which was support a young woman in her final months of life. That is not to say that this was the only correct approach. Others stopped or never initiated contact with her, for a variety of reasons no less worthy than my own.

I do regret that, by my association with her and my leadership of the SWG and as a mod on MPTT, she was legitimized in the eyes of some people while others felt unwelcome in those places. I cannot say more emphatically that this was never my intent. The SWG has always been open to anyone who agrees to play by our rules, no matter what I or others think of them. MPTT is the same, and members of both groups should expect equal respect from me and my comods as anyone, and if I ever err in that, I hope someone brings it to my attention. Although Roisin was as welcome as anyone (in fact, my final email to Hope reminded her that, although I wanted nothing more to do with her personally, she was welcome to stay on the SWG if she wished, so long as she followed our rules; she took her toys and went home, and I can't exactly say I'm disappointed by that), neither her participation on the SWG nor my "friendship" with her was ever meant to be an endorsement of her view of events over anyone else's. I don't know if she actively cultivated that impression or not, but it certainly exists, and I regret that.

I also regret that, despite knowing that there were things wrong with her story, I still allowed her view of events to color my judgment of people and happenings in this community. I have spoken to many of you privately to apologize, but I don't yet know the extent of harm caused by this. I deeply regret and apologize for any hurt that I have caused, inadvertent or not. My policy going forward is to treat everyone in this community like Roisin never existed. If I liked you before Roisin poisoned my impressions, I have no less regard now; in many cases, I have more regard, as many of you have shown extraordinary patience and restraint in making sure your side of the story was heard. I appreciate that kindness.

I am closing comments on this post, which I've never done before. I do not want this to turn into an exercise in validation, as people rush to assure me that I've done nothing wrong. While I've appreciated the support of friends, this is not about making me feel better. In the aftermath, I was hurt the least of many people involved. So if you feel the need to say or do something after reading this post, my suggestion is this: go forth and read a story by someone you haven't talked to in a while or maybe never talked to. Write a review. Or send a PM or email to someone you've fallen out of touch with. Before Hope came along, this was a lovely community, and we can make it that way again, starting now.
At the conclusion of this escapade yesterday, I said that I would not give the person involved the satisfaction of watching all the drama and wank that arose around it and decided not to post publicly but, rather, to talk to people on a need-to-know basis. I've since changed my mind on this. This person set up at least two sockpuppet accounts and acted as the worst sort of emotional leech, exploiting the good will of people in this community and actively trying to drive a wedge between friends. I want people I care about to know what to watch out for.

The rest goes beneath the cut, out of respect for those who have been dealing with this situation for a long time now, feel hurt beyond repair at the moment, and are simply tired of it.

Read more... )
I know that this is probably old news for many of you, but for those who have not heard ...

[ profile] help_haiti is a multi-fandom community that is working to collect donations to organizations working on disaster relief efforts in Haiti. In a nutshell, it works by having fandom participants auction items (like stories or icons) and services (like beta-reading) in exchange for a donation made to one of the relief organizations working in Haiti. There are quite literally hundreds of auctions currently running for everything imaginable in fandoms great and small.

Several members of the Tolkien community have auctions going. I am keeping a list of these auctions when I find out about them on both the Silmarillion Writers' Guild (in the sidebar below the links menu on every page) and Many Paths to Tread. If you have an auction running or know of another Tolkien fandom member who does, please let me know, and I will update the list.

I have my own auction going. I am offering printed or e-book copies of three of my Silmarillion novels and novellas--Another Man's Cage, By the Light of Roses, and The Work of Small Hands--for a donation of 5 USD per book. Please note that AMC is so bloody long that it will be offered as three books. For printed versions, printing costs will also be included in the final total. Based on my estimates so far, printing costs should not exceed 7 USD per book but, as noted, this is an estimate, and I cannot be sure at this point. I prioritized posting the auction rather than getting the books into finished, printable form where I could get a final printing cost.

My auction thread is here. Anyone interested can, of course, post to the auction thread, or I am willing to work privately with anyone interested. Please email me at or leave a comment on this post.

Finally, please get the word around. Even if you cannot participate, there may be others in groups and communities who can, and every little bit of help really does make a difference.
Over the past few months, I've been kicking around some thoughts on author's notes with a few of you and, as I'm contemplating my new shiny blog and what to write about in it, I thought I might eventually like to do something on author's notes and how and when they're used (and possibly misused). I have my own opinions on this, of course, but I'm interested to see how those opinions match up to other people's perceptions, so I thought I'd put up a completely unscientific LJ poll about it.

I may use the results of this in my eventual post, of course, but I won't quote anyone directly without permission. Please feel free to elaborate, rant, and ramble as much as you would like in the comments.

Click to Play )

ETA: In reading and answering comments for the past few hours, I realize that I failed to clarify a major point. Giving credit where credit is due--to others in fandom who have shaped a story (beta readers or researchers, for example) or citing the research or creative work of other writers--is not really what I'm curious about here. As writers, we are ethically and sometimes legally obligated to do this; I don't see it as a choice at all but a minimal requirement when using someone else's work. So, for this poll, "author's notes" means everything but the credit we are obligated to give as authors. Likewise, this includes information that communities might require in the form of "author's notes": challenges, ratings, warnings, et cetera.

Yes, this will further invalidate the results of my very unscientific poll, but please feel free to keep replying both in the poll and in the comments. :) I really appreciate the insights people have shared so far, particularly from outside the Tolkien fandom.
I don't post too much here about fandom these days. I am building a blog for these purposes (which will hopefully be finished any day now) so to keep my journal just that: a journal. However, since my blog is still at least a week away from functionality (possibly more, given my penchant for procrastination), then I didn't want to wait on addressing these two points.

First of all, while putting together the SWG newsletter yesterday, I stumbled on the rather interesting information that FanLib is shutting down. Like immediately. Like in two days.

I know that there are some on my flist who are new to fandom within the last year and others who might have missed last year's big hoopla about FanLib so, to recap in 100 words or less, FanLib is the--I hesitate to say archive--entity that debuted last year with a roar: On top of a rather aggressive-bordering-on-predatory recruitment strategy of those who they saw as very influential in their particular fandoms, they committed a string of faux pas almost worthy of a TV sitcom. And, at the heart of the whole brouhaha was their rather shady purpose: to profit from the creations of fan authors, enticing said authors with prizes, like free FanLib T-shirts. So they didn't endear themselves, to be nice about it. [ profile] metafandom has quite a comprehensive collection of posts on FanLib for those who are interested in learning more.

Anyway, I don't think that many in the Tolkien fandom got snookered by FanLib (especially since one of the aforementioned faux pas involved one of FanLib's founders posting spam and nastiness on LotR Fanfiction and subsequently getting smacked down by the mods), but if you do have an account with them, and if you have stories or comments there that you want to keep, I would suggest visiting their site ASAP for information on how to download your content. Please also pass this along to other authors and communities that might have FanLib authors as the announcement is fairly recent and some authors might otherwise lose content.

Second point on the agenda, ironically linked (albeit peripherally) to the FanLib closure, is an ongoing snafu with As some of you know, I recently involved myself with that site in my spare time (which isn't much), seeing as the Tolkien fandom is barely represented there. I am now rethinking my involvement. Because I encouraged others to add and edit articles over there and become involved, then I wanted to offer to you the same information that is informing my decision and, also, to apologize to anyone who took my involvement and encouragement as a reliable endorsement that this is a site with a philosophy in accordance with the reason I became involved with the site.

The snafu began when the site's owner, Laura Hale/[ profile] partly_bouncy/Michela Ecks/purplepopple, revealed the real-life identities of several major fandom players in the name of accurately recording history. When the wiki entries were edited to remove the additions, she restored them several times and was inflexible to deleting this information until her actions resulted in a firestorm of controversy that forced her hand, so to speak.

I was willing to chalk this up to a stupid mistake on her part--I am, after all, myself a group owner and have done my share of dumb, unthinking things that I've later regretted--and wasn't willing to throw in the towel on her site because of that. However, in delving the issue further, I discovered some disturbing interesting revelations about her goals for the site.

Basically, the site is being promoted to fandom as a record of fan history. I believe strongly in this goal; I think that what we're doing is really important and will someday be viewed as something of an artistic revolution. However, the site's owner actually appears to be building a site with the intent of selling it for a large sum of money (she hopes, at least) and as a "resource" for corporations interested in making money off of fandom to learn about our behaviors and habits and how we may best be exploited used tapped for financial gain.

[ profile] liviapenn has written an excellent and well-researched post on Laura Hale's financial aspirations and how she has used, in the opinions of some, fandom in general--in the interest of her personal gain:

Laura Hale: Sole proprietor of a unique marketing opportunity

[ profile] ciderpress has written and compiled a nice synopsis of the whole incident with a collection of more links for those interested in learning more about the whole story:

I’ve got the thingie. Half in English, half in squibbly.

I'm not trying to tell people how to feel about all of this or what to do. I think it is important to mention that there is a long history between Laura Hale and a lot of these people, so I'm sure that bias is influencing people's response to a degree. I am in the process of determining my own feelings on the whole issue, but--I'll be honest--the financial stuff does bother me. I don't work to be sold to the benefit of corporations realizing that there is money to be reaped from fandom, and while I recognize the need for sites to use ads and have sponsors, a lot of what has been done here seems shady to me, and I'd like to at least sit on my haunches for a while and see what happens with all of this.

I am sharing this because I thought that all of you had a right to know and make informed decisions for yourselves about your involvement with this group.
For those of you who haven't heard, there's a new kid in Fandom Towne, the Organization for Transformative Works, or OTW. Of course, this begs the question of whether OTW is a good thing for us or a less-repulsive-but-still-dangerous version of something like FanLib: a group that aims to take the legitimacy of fanworks a step too far for most fans, who just want to be left alone to do what they do.

Of course, this means too that the same tired old arguments against fan fiction are being trotted out again. I've never been comfortable covering the legal ground because--comfortable as I am with the English language in all forms--legalese definitely intimidates me. I don't feel comfortable with deciding on legal arguments, and so I will leave these alone. However, there are issues that are more creative or ethical that I find interesting, as I see them time and time again, and it seems to me that they have easy answers ... but then, I'm very biased. Fan fiction is what brought me back to writing when I'd become disheartened to the point of making my best attempt at quitting; fan fiction has introduced me to friends that I hope I'll have for the rest of my life. It is hard for me to see past this, but I do welcome other views on where my counterarguments are flawed or short-sighted. I find that as writing about and studying Tolkien moves from a passing fancy to a hobby that I hope will be lifelong, then I want to understand this issue, and part of that involves understanding why what means so much to me makes me inherently unacceptable to many of my writing peers.

Why Fanfic Sucks )

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