Factitious Disorder, Anyone?

[dawn_felagund]

In other words, I got tagged three times by my dear tarion_anarore!

Well, really, she tagged me once for Finrod. I said, "Well, I have two Finrods so they'll each do it." Then I told her that the meme was fun, so she tagged me again for Caranthir.

So here goes. For those of you who have not seen this meme yet, here are the rules:

Once you've been tagged, you have to write a blog entry with five complete lies about a muse of yours. That is, five things about the muse that are completely not true. Not even slightly. Then add something that is absolutely TRUE and the first person to guess which one is true wins. :) Then tag up to five people you want to turn into compulsive liars too.

I have two Finrod muses: one who writes my serious stories about Finrod (a whole one so far!) and one who flirts seriously with Tarion. So this one is the serious one who might in some ways resemble one of Tolkien's Elves versus Dawn the Giggling Fangurl.

1. It was wanderlust and sheer curiosity that drove me to Middle-earth. The notion that I went because I wanted my own kingdom is incorrect.
2. Even after the mistakes he made, I still love and respect my brother Orodreth, though he--if any of us--belonged staying with Atar in Valinor.
3. It was an easy decision to choose re-embodiment. I've already faced--and experienced--death, and I fear it no more.
4. In ruling my kingdom in Nargothrond, I often asked myself what my father would do and chose as I believed that he would.
5. The first true grief that I experienced was the death of Barahir.
6. I chose to become re-embodied because I felt that I'd let Amarie down in leaving her to go to Middle-earth and I wished to settle down, marry, and give her the family that she wanted.

Okay, now for the Finrod that won't leave Tarion--or any of my muses--alone. For the record, I don't think that Finrod would really be like this, but everyone needs a shamelessly pervy muse around to keep things fun, if nothing else.

1. My favorite cousin was Maedhros because he was f*cking hot.
2. I managed to avoid staring at Dawn's muse Meryth's ass all day, even when he bent over just a second ago to pick up a piece of candy off of the floor.
3. I make out with Dawn's other muse Felak all of the time. He looks a lot like me and that's bloody sexy.
4. Dawn puts me out on the balcony when I'm bad, but she doesn't realize that I like it because there's a woman in the building across the street who frequently exercises in tight clothes  and no bra with the curtains open.
5. I don't like slash. It's a travesty I tell you! You f*cking perverts!
6. The title "Lord of Caves" referred to my stonecutting ability.
   

And, at last, Caranthir the Dark. I am using my Felakverse version of him where he is creepy and prone to osanwe and the Felakverse version of muted & mutilated Rumil.

1. My dreams never come true.
2. After Curufinwe and Nelyo, I was the third best of my brothers at forge work, but I was never very creative and used to mostly make simple things that were a waste of my father's time.
3. When Nelyo was in Angband, I didn't have the courage to send my mind to him because I didn't want to know what was happening to him. I felt guilty for this when he came home, for he had been brave where I had not.
4. Tyelkormo and I were best friends until we both discovered that we liked our cousin Irisse, and then we stopped seeing each other as friends but rather competitors. I regret it now, for she never gave either of us her love, and I lost my best friend.
5. My wife's name is Taryinde and we have two daughters.
6. I always feared Rumil for I could sense his torment about him and could not see past it to the supposed beauty of the words that he wrote.
   

Anyone who manages to guess all three correctly will get a prize. I would offer a story, but I am so behind on gift/prize stories already. *sigh* Still, I'll probably offer a story, it'll just take months for me to get around to doing it.

And then, of course, there are tags:

greenknight33, I am still waiting for an answer from Klaus.... *nudgenudgenudge*
arandil13, if you can come out and play, maybe Feanor is talking to you?
isil_elensar, I'd love to hear from your Amrod.... *winkwink*
noliel, you get a welcome-to-my-LJ tag: I'd love to hear from your favorite character! :)
atanwende, Haleth or Caranthir, your choice!

Per usual, you don't have to play if you don't want to. And if you'd like to play, consider yourself tagged!

Comments

[tuxedo-elf.livejournal.com]

It's far too late for intelligent comments so may I just say... icon love!

[dawn_felagund]

Icon courtesy of aramel_calawen...and they're free for the taking! She has this and several other awesome ones here and here. :)

(And you are up late! It is nearly my bedtime, and I'm five hours behind you! *gets Elves to carry you to bed* ;) )

[rhapsodythebard.livejournal.com]

I had no idea Kasiopea drew an AMC image!! (I just read it in the thread and the images are great but I don't feel I can just go in and gack one of Aramel's icons without knowing her). Wow! Well I am just going to save my money until I can afford one of her pieces.

[isil-elensar.livejournal.com]

ermmm... the Amrod that I wrote about in Siron's Gift? or the Amrod that also seems to plague myself and Tarion with visions of nekkidness and caramel??

wait... that's very possibly two in one... LOL! ;-)

[rhapsodythebard.livejournal.com]

Isil, you know deep inside that there is no difference between those two *shakes her head* LOL I know your Amrod quite well and I think he has more up his sleeve that you actually wrote to keep it within the r-rating. ;)

[dawn_felagund]

Your choice. Whoever is...erm...in the mood. ;)

*nibbles your icon* >:^P

[rhapsodythebard.livejournal.com]

Hmmmm Finrod AMC: I don't think 1 is correct, wanderlust doesn't feel like him, I think he had other motives to cross the grinding ice. With 5 I think this is not true either.. because of grandfather Finwe. I cannot believe this didn't touch him. 6 sounds so wonderful :) Hopeless romantic that I am. With 4. I think there were more examples Finrod might have followed. So I think 6 sounds so lovingly and well *grin*

With Naughty Finrod... well I can only guess because I never heard of a misbehaving Felak!verse Finrod before (and maybe it is also because Celegorm has been guarding my door and sending many other muses away since he moved in here LOL) So here is my breakdown. Felagund means hewer of the caves... and not Lord of the caves, so that's a lie. 5. might be a lie because he might make you write slash (but this is just a guess), 4. sounds so much fun LOL. And Dawn has a balcony. 2 and 3: I wouldn't have a clue who they are to begin with. So I think it is 1. With 4 as a follow up.

And now Caranthir: 1. Hmm no. 2. Might be, still I think he was better than Nelyo. 3. Wow... might be (but I am a bit behind on reading your stuff, so eum yeah. A heck of a plotbunny 4. Heh, no :) Doesn't sound like Tyelko. Although if this is true I am starting to feel sorry for him. First Curufin, then Caranthir {{{huggles Tyelko}}}. 5. see three. 6. I think this fits AMC Caranthir, the way he is written in the story the best.

If I am wrong on all three accounts, are there still browniepoints for me?

[tarion-anarore.livejournal.com]

Yes, browniepoints! Or how about actual brownies instead? *looks at Dawn hopefully*

[dawn_felagund]

You want me to...cook? Like turn on the oven??

How 'bout candy or ice cream instead? :^D I can do that, and it's far less hazardous to your health!

[dawn_felagund]

Firstly, there are always brownie points for you! :^D

As for your guesses....

Felakverse Finrod: #6 is very, very close. That would probably be the second closest to the truth, but I envision Finrod wishing to return to life in order to continue making a positive difference in the world. Though this could be myself confusing me with my namesake. ;) After that, of course, is his wish for a wife and a family.

Naughty Finrod: #1 is correct! >:^D

Carnistir: Close again! #6 is actually the opposite of what he feels. Carni (in Felakverse) is one of the few people who can see past Rumil's mutilation to the beautiful words within. (Oddly, Feanor is the other one.) I explored this idea in the story "Constellation," which I seem to recall was posted during a really busy time in your RL, so that might not be fair to expect you to know. ;)

There is a wee scene at the end of AMC where Carni hugs masked Rumil around the legs; that scene and "Constellation" formed the basis for that item.

But you were really, really close! The contest is still open, so guess again?

*massive brownie points to you* ;)

[rhapsodythebard.livejournal.com]

Firstly, there are always brownie points for you! :^D

Score! They go very well with a mug of hot chocolate and whipped cream, although the whipped cream can be applied somewhere else as long if it does reach the lips

Okay back to felak!Finrod.
Still I can't imagine one. Two neither because well Orodreth might have faced a lot of misery, but what could he possibly have done to keep Tol Sirion against such power Celegorm wants to add that not many know that together with Curufin he rescued him and his peeps, but then he was very ungrateful afterwards, so if you reckon kicking out our two naughty Feanorians. Hmmm. I don't think there was that much he could have prevented for Nargothrond to fall (given Morgoth's workings in place already and such)... although listening to Turin would have been a smart idea to begin with. But would Finrod be so harsh on him to call this mistakes? No I don't think so, especially since his brother died in a full fledged battle.

So eum yeah, I'd already ruled out 4 to 5, 6 is unlikely too you said, so this leaves me with 3.

Carnistir! I went on instinct with him (yeah I am shamefully behind on reading). So him having daughters and a wife is possible according to HOME. So I am going with that one then.

[aramel-calawen.livejournal.com]

This meme is going around like the flu, I swear...

*pretentious cough* For serious!Finrod, I'd pick #2, because I can't imagine Finrod disliking anybody. That's one of the reasons I would like him for a muse, though I remain sadly museless as of yet. Which might be a good thing, because if I had a certain red-haired elf for muse, I'd be swooning every five minutes. #1 is just... not him, #3 doesn't fit with HOME, #4 is out because Finarfin didn't really ever do any ruling prior to the rebellion. #5 is out because of the whole Darkening of Valinor, and #6 is out because I love the idea of Amarie getting married to someone else and having a houseful of kiddies by the time he's got home. Yes, I'm evil like that.

For meme 2... erm. How to answer this? I'd pick #1. Because the last bit of the sentence was true, at least.

For meme 3, I'd pick #3 because #1 is obviously false, #2 is uncertified. #4 is out because I'm a bit of a Turko/Irisse fan (consider it Aramel-verse canon :P), # 5 is disqualified because I like the idea of all the Feanorians dying out, even though I cried over it at the same time. #6 is out because it's not Carnistir's way.

[dawn_felagund]

This meme is going around like the flu, I swear...

*giggle* Well, I've done it for myself and four characters now, so apparently--unlike the flu--having it once doesn't confer immunity. ;)

Now onto your guesses:

Felakverse Finrod: #2 is correct! Orodreth is easily dismissed (and not without reason), but I believe that Finrod must have had some respect for him in order to leave his crown in his care. And Finrod is the sort who believes in people. :)

Naughty Finrod: #1 is also correct! And I agree that it's true too. ;)

Carnistir: #5 is actually the opposite, though I've yet to write this in a story, so it's nothing that I can reference to a source yet. So maybe this question is less than fair. ;)

However, no one has guessed all three yet, but you're very close...do you want to guess again? :)

[aramel-calawen.livejournal.com]

Hmm... #2 for Carnistir's meme, then. Because I guess Turko wouldn't have been better, and the twins are open to interpretation (they liked hunting better, didn't they...?)

[ladyelleth.livejournal.com]

Uhm, hi. :) I haven't yet commented, but I'm an avid reader of your stories (can't wait for the next chapter of BtLoR, by the way!), but I figured there should be some time to come out of lurkdom, and that time seems to be now, not only because the meme is so much fun.

Guesses:

Finrod I:
1: He probably did not leave with the idea of founding his own kingdom, but curiosity and wanderlust are too shallow a motivation for someone as wise him. Lie.
2: Possible. If you're not Fëanor, respect and love for your siblings seems a given; Orodreth lived in Nargothrond and later became Finrod's heir, certainly not something Finrod would allow if he didn't love and respect his brother. May be true.
3: Back in Valinor, why would he face death again, except when the world ended? And things were bound to change significantly then anyway. Lie.
4: The other possibility, but then Finarfin turned back instead of following the rest of the host. Makes me think that Finrod would likely have refused to help Beren as well, especially for a cause like 'hey, I want to go and get a Silmaril so I can marry Thingol's daughter - I need help, come along!'. He would be wiser than that. Lie.
5: What about the death of Finwë, the Darkening, the Kinslaying of Alqualondë? He'd have recognized death as the gift of Men as opposed to a more Númenorean reaction. Lie.
6: He had already let her down once, and I doubt he'd believe in her still waiting for him to return. Lie.

So... number 2 it is, then.

Finrod II amused me, if only because a few of these sounded like things my 'pervy elf muse' Heledir would say. (Hel: Not true! I'm not as bad!) Not knowing him, though, I'll have to guess and say that number 1 makes most sense. Heledir agrees, although he is scandalized by the idea of anyone not reading/liking slash. ... Mpf.

Carnistir: (who is my fave of your characters! <3)
1: No. I think I remember an incident in AMC where he dreamt about Nelyo on Thangorodim. Lie.
2: I don't think he's patient enough for forge-work. Lie.
3: He's not stupid, but too rash to consider this before acting. At least that's what I think... otherwise this might well be true, but this way I'll have to say it it a Lie.
4: "And the Eldar wedded not with kin so near." 'Nuff said. Lie.
5: True... if anyone, he'd know.

And I consider myself tagged. ^_^ The meme will soon be up in my journal... although most of my muses (except for Nerdanel and Elwing) are original characters, feel free to hop over and guess. ;)

[dawn_felagund]

Hello back! It is nice to "talk" to you at last! I noticed that you had friended me, so I friended you back, and I was *this* close to giving you a welcome-to-my-LJ tag, but since we hadn't yet spoken, I held back for fear that maybe you wanted to quietly lurk. That's fine with me. :) But I'm glad you've commented (and now I can give you a welcome-to-my-LJ tag for the next good meme! :^D)

(can't wait for the next chapter of BtLoR, by the way!)

Me neither, only because I can't wait to see how people respond to the ending. I find it sad. I cried when I wrote it. (Though I am admittedly an overemotional pansy at times!) I've even thought about posting early but...*will resist*

Okay, so on to the contest!

Felakverse Finrod: #2 is correct! Finrod strikes me as the sort who never completely loses faith in someone he loves. (I tend to be like my namesake in this way sometimes, to a flaw.... :^/)

Pervy Finrod: #1 is correct! You might have picked up on the fact that I am a shameless Maedhros fangurl, so I guess my muse takes after me here. ;)

Oh, and Finrod just cast a come-hither look to Heledir and said, "Hey, baby.... *winkwink*"

Carnistir: #6 is actually the opposite! I have a story "Constellation" that explores how a friendship between my Carni and my Rumil might have gone. Carni is one of the few (with Feanor being another) who can see past Rumil's outward ugliness to the beautiful person that he is within. He does also sense Rumil's torment, but this is trumped by Rumil's words.

There is also a scene at the end of AMC where Carni goes and hugs a costumed Rumil. This response was based off of these two ideas. :)

No winners yet--though you're very close--so guess again if you'd like! :)

The meme will soon be up in my journal...

Oh, I will definitely check it out! (And don't be a stranger.... ;) )

(PS--Your icon is *love*! :^D)

[ladyelleth.livejournal.com]

I'm rather shy, even online, so it always takes me a while and lots of courage to comment anywhere, which is why I most often stay in lurkdom. Sometimes, though, I realize that nobody will chop my head off if I comment in someone's journal. That's what LJ is for, after all. So feel free to tag me all you like! ^_^

Overemotional, well - I don't think so. It's natural to develop some sort of attachment to one's characters, and looking at the way the story will have to end, tears are probably a given. I know for a fact that both oloriel (I found your stories via her, btw) and I were rather moved (not to tears, but still moved) when we read one of the last chapters of BtLoR...

Felakverse Finrod: #2 is correct!
:) It sounds very much like him, and while I can see the possibility of this trait being a fault, in his case it certainly isn't!

shameless Maedhros fangurl
Hard to miss. ;) Although, honestly, who isn't?

Oh, and Finrod just cast a come-hither look to Heledir and said, "Hey, baby.... *winkwink*"
Hel: *smirks* If what I see is what I get...

Ngah. He keeps showing up everywhere, and sometimes just drives me completely nuts... maybe I should consider your balcony idea. ;)

As for Carnistir - Oooh. ^_^ I'll definitely give 'Constellation' a try - can't believe that I haven't already, if it is about Carnistir. And yes, I remember the scene. It was very moving, just as most everything that had ickle!Carni.

Carnistir: #6 is actually the opposite!
In that case... if he managed to see past even Rúmil's torment, I doubt he would not manage the same with one of his brothers, who, after all is even closer to him. On the other hand, knowing what they put him through would be made more terrible by that, too... but he does not strike me as someone who wouldn't send his brother support, 'dark' though he was... Not true.

Five also seems unlikely... I don't recall ever reading about a wife or daughters, not during BtLoR, and if I remember correctly, your story about Carnistir and the sea (the title escapes me, but then it's 4AM and I can't sleep) even stated that he never married...

Must be number 2 here as well.

Oh, I will definitely check it out! (And don't be a stranger.... ;) )
I'm looking forward to it! :) Soon. I'm still struggling with Heledir's lies, since he insists that he *doesn't* lie (which actually is true), but still likes the meme and wants to be included. ... Don't comment on this, it's a typical Heledirism, and they hardly ever make sense.

(PS--Your icon is *love*! :^D)
Thank you! ^_^ Up for grabs if you want it, too. But careful, it can be quite addictive to watch the stickfigure Feanorians running!

[tarion-anarore.livejournal.com]

Glad you amended that statement, because I only tagged you twice!

For real Finrod (why do I keep having issues typing "Finrod"??), I'm going to guess #4, because I think that the only other close one is #2, but the whole respect part kinda made me lean toward #4. So #4 is true.

For normal naughty Finrod...Yeah right, #2 is a huge freaking LIE!! I'm thinking it's #1, unless something has changed since the last time we talked. (Though Finrod wanting to make out with Felak would not surprise me much.)

And the lies of Carnistir are just way too damn hard. Hmmm...is it #3? (Even if it's not, it'd be part of *my* verse if I were you!) For #5, I think I recall the first part as true, but I don't know about the daughters part - hey, the lies were supposed to be 100% false, not half false! ;) That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Do I get a/the prize? Finrod, do I get a prize? ;)

Wow, Dawn, I'm surprised you didn't tag me back!

[dawn_felagund]

Finrod: Hellooooo....

Dawn: Be gone, you!

Okay, the contest:

Real Finrod--#4 is a very good guess. I would say that Finrod certainly kept his father in mind, but I've always seen him more like to Nolofinwe in ruling style than Finarfin. So close...but not quite! :)

Pervy Finrod--#1 is absolutely correct.

Finrod: Yeah, nothing's changed. I still think that impregnating Maedhros is the greatest gift I could give the world. Just think: red hair, golden highlights, my perky bum, Maedhros's enormous--

Dawn: *ahem* Didn't I tell you to be gone??

Carnistir--I'm not sure which one you ended up picking, but one of the ones you were torn between is correct. (And there are no half-truths here.)

So...care to guess again? The prize still has not been given.

Finrod, do I get a prize? ;)

Finrod: *zzzzzzzip*

Dawn: Whoa! Put that thing away!

Wow, Dawn, I'm surprised you didn't tag me back!

Oh, you came *this* close. But I didn't want to be too obnoxious. ;)

[tarion-anarore.livejournal.com]

Hellooooo to you too...

I would say that Finrod certainly kept his father in mind, but I've always seen him more like to Nolofinwe in ruling style than Finarfin.

Darn. Then I guess...#2, I think?

Yeah, nothing's changed. I still think that impregnating Maedhros is the greatest gift I could give the world. Just think: red hair, golden highlights, my perky bum, Maedhros's enormous--

ROFLMFAO!!!

Stop it! Stop it! You're putting images in my head...

I'm not sure which one you ended up picking, but one of the ones you were torn between is correct.

Ok then er...#5???

*zzzzzzzip*

*snerk*

But I didn't want to be too obnoxious. ;)

Lol, I wouldn't say you were obnoxious for tagging.

[callirhoe.livejournal.com]

At first I read the title of this post as "Facetious Disorder". LOL. I think that could be a good post, too. :-D

Teh Memes!

normal!Finrod: I like #4 a lot. I'm not sure if I believe it, but I want it to be true. Finarfin is such the role model -- I'm beginning to like him an awful lot.

pervy!Finrod: #1. Yeah. ;-D I like the idea of an ambiguous one-sided Fin/Mae -- because which Fin is it, huh? This muse of yours lies outrageously, anyway.

Caranthir mon amour: maybe it would help with this if I'd actually read all of AMC... eh, well, I'm still plugging along (though I'm a couple of chapters behind by now. *sad face* I'll get there!). I like #6, but I suppose I'd have to read that particular fic of yours in order to see what your Rumil is like, which I haven't.

[dawn_felagund]

Facetious disorder? *snicker* I get that sometimes. :^P

But, no, it was just me being a psych geek....

Okay, the contest!

Felakverse Finrod: #4 is so, so close. Ai, it burns, precious! But my Finrod actually looks more to Nolofinwe as a role model than his father, especially since he doesn't think of his father as a leader at all (having never lived under him as king).

Pervy Finrod: Damn skippy! Pervy!Finrod has had his eye on Tarion's poor Maedhros muse for weeks now, wanting to impregnate him. It didn't help when Bobby posted an article about how pregnant male fish were found in the Potomac River right around here.... >;^)

Carnistir: #6 is actually the total opposite! Carni is one of the few who can see past Rumil's mutilation to the beauty within. But since you're not that far in AMC and haven't read "Constellation," you wouldn't know this. :)

(And no one has gotten Carnistir's yet! Wow!)

So the contest is still open if you care to guess again! :)

[tarion-anarore.livejournal.com]

Deary, try months.

[atanwende.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'm so sorry for myself I missed this.

I think I may even have picked the right choice concerning Caranthir. I mean, of course that's quite easy to say now that I know the truth... ;-P

I mean, #1 is clearly a lie. #2 was rather... noo. #3 is just the thing I could see your Caranthir do. I can totally see him thinking something along the lines 'Oh well, this might be creepy, but... eh, let's do it nonetheless. #4... well, I simply can't see him falling for Aredhel. And I know #6 to be false because I've read your stories. Hehe. So it would habe been #5, because I remember Taryinde from When the Stars Smile, I think, even though I can't remember you ever metioning they had children. Awwwwww. :-D

[dawn_felagund]

I can totally see him thinking something along the lines 'Oh well, this might be creepy, but... eh, let's do it nonetheless.

That's pretty much my Caranthir! :^D

I remember Taryinde from When the Stars Smile, I think, even though I can't remember you ever metioning they had children. Awwwwww. :-D

I don't know that I've ever mentioned it anywhere before, so maybe this was a bit of cheating on my part. ;) But I hoped to reward those who remember Taryinde. Incidentally, I am working on a gift story for someone about their engagement.