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[community profile] snowflake_challenge #4 is especially intriguing:

In your own space, add something to your fandom’s canon. Leave a comment in this post saying you did it. Include a link to your post if you feel comfortable doing so.


Oh, I've gone around and around about this. I'm not just a Tolkien fan but a Silmarillion fan, which is a text constructed entirely from partial, unfinished, illegible, and undated drafts in varying contradictory forms. Tolkien left a lot of threads just ... trailing off into nothing. Wouldn't it be nice to have some of those threads resolved? Or to get his final word on a few things that are subject to particularly strenuous debate??

At first, I was like, "Pengolodh!!!" Y'all probably know that I have a thing for Pengolodh. He consumes a lot of my nonfiction and fiction writing. I thought, it'd be nice to have more information about him ... or more definitive information at least. If I had to choose, this would still probably be my answer to the question. (Which foreshadows that, perhaps, I am not going to choose??)

Then, along the same lines, I thought, "Christopher leaving Pengolodh in The Silmarillion!!!" But I immediately nixed that because Monday-morning quarterbacking Christopher's editorial choices is a particular fannish peeve of mine.

Next thought was The Shibboleth of Fëanor, which—despite being called The Shibboleth of F ë a n o r—goes into details about the names of everyone BUT the dang Fëanorians. How nice would it be if Tolkien had finished that and explained where the mother-names came from in more detail or why the Fëanorians alone have those matching nicknames of their father-names (Nelyo, etc)—what's up with those? When were the used and by whom? What did he have in mind when he decided to give them all those types of names?

But (as I hinted above), I ultimately decided that I don't want extra stuff on any of those things. Part of the fun of the Tolkien fandom and the Silm in particular is the mystery: the fragmentary nature of the canon and the need to piece things together and make inferences to get the full story, and then of course, we end up with different inferences and different interpretations and that is ... fanfiction. Or fanworks, more broadly. And this type of creative work has brought me so much joy over decades now, not least of all because of the intellectual exercise it entails: analysis coupled with creative expression of the ensuing ideas, with a significant dose of socialization with people who enjoy similar types of thinking and creative work, i.e., not people whom I feel like I have to hide or perform around.

Then there's also the fact that I've become attached to the characters of first Tolkien's and then my and others' imaginings: like finding out something disappointing about someone you thought you knew well. Or finding an old friend has changed ... not even for the worse. Just not the person you thought you knew. When The Nature of Middle-earth came out, I was nervous about what it might include that would upend the characters and world as I had come to know them/it. I remember early in fandom, when the Harry Potter novels were still being released, looking at their fandom and being so grateful that I was part of a fandom with a settled canon, and I do continue to like that.




Okay, so on to Challenge #7: "In your own space, interact with a community or a fic."

This is an easy one. As one of the SWG mods, this is part of my everyday, in addition to the regular socially oriented interactions that I have. Let's see how I interacted today:

  • I've been talking off-and-on all day with my SWG comods on our mod channel on the Discord.

  • I responded to a member request on the Discord by updating something on the website.

  • Unfortunately, I had to have an exchange with another member, privately, about taking greater care with their words on the Discord.

  • I sent out Volume 18, Issue 2 of the SWG newsletter to 81 subscribers.

  • I reblogged this post on Taxonomies of Fandoms and applied the OP's ideas to Tolkien fandom.

  • I reblogged this post showing a bound book someone made that included a story I collaborated on and tagged the other authors in the story so they could see it too.


So that's not bad for someone who frequently describes her existence in recent years as "like a hermit" talking for the very first time.

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Date: 2023-01-15 11:58 am (UTC)
galadhir: a beautiful elf with brown skin and black eyes stares at the viewer, a tiny luminous fairy on her right hand side (elf queen)
From: [personal profile] galadhir

Yeah, one of the things a fandom needs in order to be fruitful for fanfic is holes the author hasn't filled in, and Tolkien gave us several whole universes full of holes :) And also lots of half finished beginnings of stories we could finish ourselves. It's no wonder it's such a fruitful canon.

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Date: 2023-01-15 08:26 pm (UTC)
galadhir: a blue octopus sits in a golden armchair reading a black backed novel (Default)
From: [personal profile] galadhir

Oh yes, exactly! Oddly it's both more realistic (because history really is like that), and also more magical, because the seen is always less numinous than the unseen. I've always leaned in to that when trying to write his elves - always trying to leave space for wonder. Which is convenient because it means you can suggest the awesome without actually having to show it, knowing that the reader will fill in the gaps for you.

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Date: 2023-01-15 03:11 pm (UTC)
hhimring: Estel, inscription by D. Salo (Default)
From: [personal profile] hhimring
You do so much that we are only sort of aware you are doing, every day!
Sorry you had to warn somebody to mind their choice of words. I know it must happen now and then, inevitably, with such a lot of passionately invested people chatting away, but it can't ever be pleasant.

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Date: 2023-01-15 03:33 pm (UTC)
hhimring: Estel, inscription by D. Salo (Default)
From: [personal profile] hhimring
Also, about your taxonomies of fandoms post: not disagreeing, of course, but there are always exceptions. There were dedicated drabble communities (and at least one is still hanging on) and I know at least one writer who pretty much defined themselves as drabble writer.

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Date: 2023-01-15 07:46 pm (UTC)
hhimring: Estel, inscription by D. Salo (Default)
From: [personal profile] hhimring
No, I wasn't suggesting what you said was not true! As far as I know, there never was an archive for drabbles.

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Date: 2023-01-15 03:48 pm (UTC)
elennalore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elennalore
I loved to see the casual list of fandom interactions, and now I think I could make this kind of post in my own blog too (although my interactions are perhaps not so many).

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Date: 2023-01-15 08:59 pm (UTC)
spiced_wine: (Sun fire)
From: [personal profile] spiced_wine
Then there's also the fact that I've become attached to the characters of first Tolkien's and then my and others' imaginings: like finding out something disappointing about someone you thought you knew well. Or finding an old friend has changed ... not even for the worse. Just not the person you thought you knew. When The Nature of Middle-earth came out, I was nervous about what it might include that would upend the characters and world as I had come to know them/it. I remember early in fandom, when the Harry Potter novels were still being released, looking at their fandom and being so grateful that I was part of a fandom with a settled canon, and I do continue to like that.

Yes, and honestly after this amount of time, there would be a degree of ‘well my canon is settled so adding this in isn’t going to change anything.’

I love the gaps, the hints, everything about it. There are other books that I love but there seems nothing to add really.

Thoughts

Date: 2023-01-17 10:35 pm (UTC)
ysabetwordsmith: Cartoon of me in Wordsmith persona (Default)
From: [personal profile] ysabetwordsmith
>>Part of the fun of the Tolkien fandom and the Silm in particular is the mystery: the fragmentary nature of the canon and the need to piece things together and make inferences to get the full story, and then of course, we end up with different inferences and different interpretations and that is ... fanfiction.<<

That's what makes history interesting. Tolkien was accurate in so many ways, and this too is part of that. History is always fragmentary. My notes are fragmentary, because no matter how fascinated I am by a world, I can never write down all of it. Just pieces.

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